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From: Miroslav Rovis <miro.rovis@croatiafidelis.hr>
To: "tehnicka.podrska@t.ht.hr" <tehnicka.podrska@t.ht.hr>
Subject: Re: problem s =?utf-8?Q?produ=C5=BEenjem_c?=
 =?utf-8?Q?roatiafidelis=2Ehr?= =?utf-8?Q?=2C?= was: SSL error u ZTE routeru
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Ni=C5=A1ta mi odgovorili niste na moja pitanja, ali prije nego poku=C5=A1am=
 opet
sam prou=C4=8Diti =C5=A1to i za=C5=A1to... Mo=C5=BEete li mi re=C4=87i s ko=
jom logikom (u va=C5=A1em
umu) bi .hr domena mogla biti, kao domena, ne prostor --zamjetili ste
valjda i sami da se ne radi o produ=C5=BEenju iznajmljivanja prostora, valj=
da
jeste--, a kako proizlazi iz snimki zaslona, podkriepljeno "trace"-ovima
mre=C5=BEnog prometa (network traffic dumps, or traces)...

[Mo=C5=BEete li mi re=C4=87i s kojom bi to logikom (va=C5=A1eg uma) moja .h=
r domena
--ne prostor-- mogla biti] u na=C5=A1oj nadle=C5=BEnosti?

Naime pi=C5=A1ete:

>=20
> Po=C5=A1tovani,
>=20
> ukoliko se radi o domeni koja je u na=C5=A1oj nadle=C5=BEnosti (pla=C4=87=
ate ju Hrvatskom Telekoma), ljubazno Vas molimo da Va=C5=A1 upit dostavite =
na poslovne kontakte ( https://www.hrvatskitelekom.hr/poslovni/podrska-posl=
ovni/kontakti ), a u protivnom potrebno je obratiti se pru=C5=BEatelju dome=
ne.
>=20
> Uz zahvalu na razumijevanju srda=C4=8Dno Vas pozdravljamo.
>=20
> S po=C5=A1tovanjem,=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> HRVATSKI TELEKOM d.d.
>=20
> Tomislav=20
> Agent za e-korisni=C4=8Dku podr=C5=A1ku
> Odjel e-poslovanja
> Odsjek za e-korisni=C4=8Dku podr=C5=A1ku
> Adresa: Roberta Frange=C5=A1a Mihanovi=C4=87a 9, 10110 Zagreb
> E-mail: tehnicka.podrska@t.ht.hr ( mailto:tehnicka.podrska@t.ht.hr )
=2E..

Pitanje bi se moglo postaviti tako=C4=91er i ovako: Zar jedan kvalificirani
informati=C4=8Dki djelatnik misli da se .hr domene, samo kori=C5=A1tenje do=
mena,
adresa koje se nazivaju domenama, i to onih koje zavr=C5=A1avaju na .hr kao
CroatiaFidelis.hr, u Repoblici Hrvatskoj pla=C4=87aju?

Me=C4=91utim ostavimo to, ako ne razumiete... Nego javit =C4=87u vam ako i =
dalje
ne budem mogao autorizirati domenu, odnosno ako bude opet kako mo=C5=BEete
vidjeti i prou=C4=8Diti da je prije bilo na ve=C4=87 vam datoj adresi (rani=
je vam
ve=C4=87 poslatoj, a da ba=C5=A1 nikakvo stru=C4=8Dno mi=C5=A1ljenje o tome=
 od vas do sad
dobio nisam; naprotiv, samo ste brzoglasno me automatski obaviestili u
roku od nevelikog broja minuta nakon mog razgovora sa anonimnim ve=C5=A1im
tehni=C4=8Darom da ste problem rie=C5=A1ili... ):

> http://croatiafidelis.hr/foss/cap/cap-160606-dns-hr/

I, ako budem trebao va=C5=A1u pomo=C4=87 (koju mi do sad u ovom predmetu ni=
ste
pru=C5=BEili), molit =C4=87u vas za ozbiljniji tretman.

Svako dobro! (moj podpis je na dnu)

On 160614-12:31+0200, tehnicka.podrska@t.ht.hr wrote:
>=20
> ----------------------------
> From: "Miroslav Rovis" <miro.rovis@croatiafidelis.hr>
> Sent: 13.06.2016 17:15
> To: tehnicka.podrska@t.ht.hr
> Cc: "CARNet, Helpdesk" <helpdesk@carnet.hr>
> Subject: problem s produ=C5=BEenjem croatiafidelis.hr, was: SSL error u Z=
TE routeru
> =C5=A0tovani T-com!
> =C5=A0tovani CARNET!
>=20
> postoje decidirano grje=C5=A1ke i vidljive su u svim snimkama zaslona i za
> laike, a za programere su to trace-ovi u kojima ima "malformed
> packet"-a, pa vas molim da rje=C5=A1imo ovaj ne tako lagani problem (za
> po=C4=8Detnike amateur-programere poput mene).
>=20
> Dodatno ima upravo postavljeno moje tuma=C4=8Denje u:
>=20
> README_160608_1449_g0n.txt
> (za datoteke s tim timestamp-om)
> na:
> http://croatiafidelis.hr/foss/cap/cap-160606-dns-hr/
>=20
> gdje je spomenut i CARNET i Croatian T-com.
>=20
> Unapried hvala! (moj podpis je sasvim na dnu)
>=20
> Izpod je proslie=C4=91ena poruka (skra=C4=87ena), od koje ne dobih jo=C5=
=A1 odgovora od T-com-a.
> (A ne dobih jo=C5=A1 odgovora ni od CARNET-a.)
>=20
> ----- Forwarded message from Miroslav Rovis <miro.rovis@croatiafidelis.hr=
> -----
>=20
> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 07:24:58 +0200
> From: Miroslav Rovis <miro.rovis@croatiafidelis.hr>
> To: tehnicka.podrska@t.ht.hr
> Cc: info@t.ht.hr
> Subject: SSL error u ZTE routeru
>=20
> ...
> Ponovnim pregledavanjem sam shva=C4=87am da ovo ne dokazuje ni=C5=A1ta, d=
a je ovo
> =C5=A1tovi=C5=A1e vjerovatno regularno:
>=20
> http://www.croatiafidelis.hr/foss/cap/cap-160610-ZTE-ssl/
>=20
> Ali, ukratko, imat =C4=87emo mi posla, jer ovdje (a kanim tamo jo=C5=A1 p=
ostaviti):
>=20
> http://croatiafidelis.hr/foss/cap/cap-160606-dns-hr/
>=20
> mo=C5=BEete vidjeti kako nema na=C4=8Dina (a ja +sumnjam+ na moj ZTE rout=
er) da ja
> obnovim domenu croatiafidelis.hr
> ...
>=20
> ----- End forwarded message -----
=2E..

--=20
Miroslav Rovis
Zagreb, Croatia
http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr

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