>
> C'mon, while I'm relly not an expert, I am still an advanced user.
> I did give it a try, right now, and what I saw is just what I had
> expected: No, it can't run as root either.
>
> It can't run as root either. And it flunked just like it flunked as
> normal user, because in a grsecurity-hardened kernel based system, root
> is not the boss like root used to be the boss in pre linux capabilities
> system.
This application runs. The problem is your system. Cinelerra is not
perfect, but
I have good experience with regard to this program and system development,
and I can say with good authority, the problem here is not cinelerra, it is
the
environment. I have built many systems, from embedded to crays, hardware
and software... gentoo is a poor excuse for a system. If the hardened
install
breaks applications, the problem is with the hardened install, not the
application.
It is the job of the os to run the programs, not to fain running them, or
fail a
normally operational program. Security at the cost of failure seems to be a
cost you are willing to bear.
The system install for gentoo on my machine is nearly complete. When it
works, I will see if I can tell what it is that is causing the immediate
failures.
After reconnoitering the gentoo install, I have reached the conclusion that
it
may be the only system I can not support. FreeBSD worked better, which
is saying something. If you would like to see a build design with similar
characteristics which has been known to work well, look at openwrt.
gentoo has terrible documentation, has no well defined install procedure,
does not provide a series of documented steps for system installation,
and is at best a hodge podge of loosely associated programs which are
mostly installed, not by design or intent but by latent dependency rules
which seem to occur mostly by chance. Your lucky if you get a working
system after several hours of hard work on a good machine. Lousy.
On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 4:25 AM, Miroslav Rovis <
miro.rovis@???> wrote:
> Hi Good Guy! Hi visitors of this Archived Correspondence:
>
> Testing Cinelerra 5.1 from goodguy repo
>
> I think I've almost have the new archive in Lurker all set and that our
> correspondence will be functional on my SOHO, and then a non-searchable
> copy, but with all the links (or most, remember Gentoo Forums have
> started ruining my posts as eight-years long member of theirs, God knows
> if they will start deleting them, and if so, how soon) [but with all the
> links] contained in the email-messages to soon become web-pages,
> functional.
>
> All the correspondence since Good Guy and I have moved off Cinelerra-CV
> mailing list to not bombard the list, if I have set it up correctly (and
> if there should not be other problems, whichever), should soon be
> available at:
>
> http://www.croatiafidelis.hr/foss/cinelerra/gg/
> (just created, but empty).
>
> It'll be a complete browse, of all the correspondence during this so far
> three days of testing, for people interested in installing Cinelerra, in
> not yet supported *nix/Linuces, but in particular in Gentoo
> (out-of-portage).
>
> It's pretty certain that installing Cinelerra 5.1 from Good Guys repo
> should work for Gentooers with a non-hardened kernel, and it is likely
> that it should work for general *nix/Linux system.
>
> I am however, a hard core fan of grsecurity-hardening, and want every
> program that I install to play by good security rules, true security
> rules (not fake like the NSA Linux... oh, sorry, I meant SELinux)...
>
> And so I hope to get Good Guy to solve the remaining issues ;-) .
>
> Should the Lurker archive not be soon available in the manner described
> at the top, pls. have patience. You never know what can go wrong...
>
> Should that be the case, Good Guy, pls. allow another resending of this
> message.
>
> Also, updating the archives, since they will be just frozen Lurker
> archives, a copy of the Lurker archives on my SOHO, also may take time.
> I don't promise anything, esp. how soon the update will be... I'm not an
> expert.
>
> Pls. look up Cinelerra-CV mailing list for news, and to learn whether
> the testing of Cinelerra-CV goodguy repo has been resolved successully,
> and also look up:
>
> http://www.croatiafidelis.hr/foss/gentoo/cinelerra-out-of.php
>
> for such news!
>
> On 160427-22:09-0600, Good Guy wrote:
> > I would try to get the application to run as root, with
> > root owner/group file permissions. The goal is to see
>
> I left this small part just to get the message, hopefully, in the right
> place
> in the thread.
> --
> Miroslav Rovis
> Zagreb, Croatia
> http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr
>
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